you don't see him as some trained cia type guy we needed to fear to this extent. you think he was a bit of a bungler. what do you mean? >> well, megyn, when you look at his career in lapd you can certainly see that he bare had i had enough training on lapd and experience to ride in a police car by himself. he had problems in the academy from day one and we didn't see any of the-- or otherwise describe the problems he had in the academy and he had an accidental discharge with a firearm at the academy shot himself in the hand and two day suspension. we look at the videos of printing and he kind of looks like a dork. he doesn't feel comfortable with the weapons you can see it in the way he handles himself and they report his military experience. the unit he was in is basically a mobile communications unit in the navy and i'm sure he had exposure to weapons training just like anybody in the military does, but when you look at his manifesto you'd swear you were up against 007, jason bourne, rambo, and that isn't the case. and he wasn't a highly trained lapd officer. he